River wrote:Heh... sorry about the length of my posts, I'm pretty longwinded and once I think about things, I just start rambling! Thanks for mentioning my spelling and grammar though. Even though it's only a simple post on the internet, I try and do my best just because I want my thoughts to come across as clearly as I can so I can show people how I feel and what I am thinking. Even though we're of different opinions of how things went in the story, I think it's great that we can disagree and not get all crazy about it. I think it's great there are people who were disappointed he chose Nishino because it shows me that the story was that dynamic.
Don't worry about it lol. I have a tendency to rant on and on when I am talking about stuff like this. Discussions like these, I enjoy alot =).
River wrote:See I just see Satsuki saying the "I thought I'd be a better woman" line as kind of a way for her to break the ice with Manaka again and kind of rib him a bit for becoming much more mature himself. I think if she had been serious to the point where she had been waiting for him all that time, slowly trying to become a woman he would fall in love with, she would NOT have said that. It would have been the awkward trying to be happy Satsuki, but inside she is really disappointed. Like I said I just can't picture Satsuki trying to wait and pine for Manaka when he had already chosen Nishino for like the 5 or 6 years the Time Skip covers. She definitely has lingering feelings for him, but I think her reactions and actions indicate she's moved on in a way. And Amachi with Aya? Definitely not. I'd rather have some no name guy for two reasons. A. She never had anything for Amachi and if she ended up with him, it would have been like she was settling because it was someone who paid attention to her and B. It seems kind of a fanfic way to go in that people start throwing together characters just because they are there. Unless Amachi was a whole lot better of a character to the point where he was a "true" rival rather than a joke half the time I probably would be very disappointed if she ended up with Amachi.
I was sure what I stated was true...so I went back to reread the last chapter...gosh I hate it..I am all emotional again....anyways here...http://www.onemanga.com/Ichigo100%25/167/12/
She was in awe by how much Manaka have changed since the last time they have met. Manaka haven't seen any of his buddies in the film club since graduation, as stated in the previous page in the link I provided.
Nishino and Manaka was NOT going out until Nishino came back from her France trip, which was the last scene in the manga. Just from her actions of throwing..whatever that was she threw(lol) at Manaka and what she said, I have to say she still has feelings for Manaka. Why why why...I don't understand this
, I have suggest this in several forums and each one stated that it would be absurd if Amachi and Aya ended up together. Amachi isn't fooling around when it came to Aya. She might not have anything for Amachi because she had feelings for Manaka throughout the whole manga but during the timeskip, Amachi and Aya most definitely spent time together since they attended the same school with, highly likely, the same majors, assuming this because both were in the literature club during highschool. I am not just throwing random people together to make a "happy" ending, instead I really felt that they could have worked things out. Don't forget the predictions that Amachi made, 1- Aya falling for him and 2- Kozue liking Manaka which came true. Aya is a simple-minded person when it came to love. When she loves someone, she loves them whole-heartedly which is the reason why she had no interest in Amachi but with Manaka out of the picture for so long, how can Amachi x Aya pair be unfaithful to the story? Just because the story revolves around Manaka does not mean you can not have others fall in love too.
River wrote:Hahaha!! So you were a Nishino fan first and then became an Aya fan later? That's pretty funny since it was the opposite of how I was like you said. I guess I just had it in my head that we'd all be Aya fans from the start. The lesson as always, is that I am an idiot. It's really cool because it just shows how dynamic this story was. I'll debate the Aya gave up more than Nishino to be with Manaka angle though. I think Nishino having already been in a relationship that Manaka could not commit to had that fear and that pain to get over. She had already been disappointed once as she had mentioned to Ookusa and yet she still made the pull up confession without any acknowledgment of Manaka's feeling for her. I'm not saying Aya didn't sacrifice a lot either. I just think Aya's sacrifice was to face pain despite the uncertainty of what could happen and Nishino had that on top of knowing what it was like to even be chosen and still be hurt and disappointed.
Hmm, I might have put out my feelings in a way that you misintepret what I said. I am definitely, 100%, wholeheartedly a NISHINO TSUKASA FAN!
. lol, why are you calling yourself an idiot ^^?
I totally agree on the part that Nishino has been neglected when they first went out which would make it that much worst if they did go out again and to feel disappointed once again but my arguement would have to come where Nishino decided to abandon the promise they made when they started to date. She went to test for another school while Aya, who could have been accepted to any school she wanted, attended Izumizaka for no other reason than to be with Manaka. Then there was the scripts she wrote for the film club, the acting she did for the third film and joining the film club. All those things, she did not have to act or write or even join the club. Don't get me wrong, Nishino definitely sacrificed alot just to be with Manaka as well, such as rejecting Higure-san but by no means could I see Tsukasa giving up more when comparing to Aya.
river wrote:Heh... that alternate ending was definitely just a joke. I would kill people if that actually happened. I think the details you're looking for would work better as maybe a short companion book to the series in which Kawashita gives us a few more details about each character. I'd picture it being kind of like DVD extras type of thing. I think we get what we need to end the story in the manga. It shows the current film studies club becoming like Manaka was when he started and was in love with the old movie that a previous class had made. Then it shows the film club as they are now when everyone has grown up and matured. They've gone on to successful careers and they all can get together again and just be friends like they were in high school. The story proper ends after the party with Nishino and Manaka's reunion. I don't think complete closure is needed for any character besides Manaka since it was his story to begin with. Would it be nice to have them? Definitely, but for the Ichigo 100% story it wasn't needed.
Yea, your probably right. What I am looking for is somewhat a novel that is either base on the manga or relations to the manga which is why the name of this thread..^^
Definitely, I agree with everything you said here =). Just that, I posted it, as a "selfish request" hehe.
river wrote:Again I respect the fact you think Satsuki is still in truly in love with Manaka and you think Aya should have ended up with Amachi if she didn't with Manaka. They're valid opinions and I would totally give you props if Kawashita came out in an interview and was like "yeah Satsuki is still deeply in love with Manaka." I mean you made me think more about it and that wasn't what my opinion was at all.
I am grateful to be able to discuss this manga =). That is what discussions do, makes you either realize something new or cause you to think about things you already known in-depth.